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HWA July meeting

Last week was the July meeting of the Hampshire wood turners association. I’ve already written a mini report for the Hampshire woodturners new website
This is not yet the official website, but I’ve been working on them to move. Since I believe that a wordpress blog is much easier to manage than their current website.
If all goes to plan they will redirect their hostname to the new site, and I can help them create content there.

However I still wanted to write up my own impressions of the meeting, and keep them separate from the ‘official’ writeup.

This month Mark Hancock came to demonstrate what he termed a ‘rocking vessel’
What this actually means is a hollow form, with no flat base. So rather than standing up in a conventional way, they roll around, or ‘rock’ to a natural resting point.

These are interesting, I’m not sure what I personally think about the particular design he showed us. I was interested in the methods that went into making it, but I don’t think I actually liked the resulting object.

The texture on the outside is probably the thing I was most interested in. However before we got to that he shaped the outside profile down from a cylinder and then hollowed it.

Having seen a number of demonstrations now, there are certain things that are getting a little old, repeated information that everyone gives. Certainly I don’t think they should stop giving it, after all I found the same information interesting the first time. But now I find I’m tuning out from certain bits of tips and advice that I’ve heard repeated often.

That said Mark had some useful points to make about the complicated terminology used in woodturning. The same things tend to get referred to in various ways by different people. Spindle turning, bowl turning, faceplate turning, end grain turning, etc etc. He pointed out that many of the terms dictate what you’re turning.
Instead he prefers to talk about all turning as one of 2 types.
Parallel grain turning, where the wood grain runs parallel to the bed bars.
And cross grain, where the grain runs at right angles to the bed bars.
The methods of holding etc etc, are a different factor, but the thing you need to understand is the direction of grain and the implication that has for tool use.

One great tip that I pricked up my ears for, regarded putting a dead centre in the headstock inside when you attach a normal chuck. His reason for this was having once attached a large heavy piece to a headstock on a Record lathe, (same make as mine but a few models higher) and when he switched it on the weight simply crushed the mostly hollow spindle. Ouch.
Repairs cost him 3 or 4 days of being unable to turn (which he did professionally) and a not insignificant sum.
By putting a dead centre in the spindle, you effectively make it a solid bar. It had not occurred to me that it would fit, but given I have one, and it is basically useless for anything else. I shall try to get into the habbit. I don’t think I’m in danger of turning anything that heavy. but better safe than sorry.

Something I noticed about this demo, as compared to last months. Was that nearly every part of it used a tool I don’t have.
Where as last months demo was mostly showing what you can achieve with simple tools and careful measurements. (Ok so they also indicated a need for a bench planer which is not a small requirement, but you could get by without)

This month though, hollowing was done with a special hollowing tool. It did make the job look easy, and he had a number of tips to provide. But I’m not about to go get myself a hollowing tool so…

One interesting tool use was to use a cabinet scraper to help get a good finish on the outside. He was able to use it freehand, and could do some final shaping with it to help him get the form he is looking for. Cabinet scrapers aren’t too expensive and can easily be sharpened on a dry grinder. It was interesting to see a tool being used without a tool rest, but I guess the point is that you’re taking very light cuts to get a better surface finish.

Then having used the hollowing tool to form coves at intervals on the outside (he could of used a spindle gouge etc, but since he had the hollower in his hand and it would do the job why not)


The result looked a little like a large honey stick thing. Like a bee hive or something.

Next he marked out parallel lines around the outside of the shape. Basically using the jaws for the chuck to give him 4 evenly spaced points, and drawing by eye along the length. Then, again by eye, drawing another 4 lines evenly spaced, each half way between the first 4.

He made a good point here, that accurate measurement was not necessary, in fact could be harmful to the overall effect. This is supposed to be an organic shape, so too much precision could make it seem machined.

Then for another fun tool, the mini arbortech. This is an attachment for an angle grinder (I’ve got an angle grinder so that’s something) It extends out and provides a mount for a smaller cutting blade which is basically 8 chainsaw teeth in a circle.
With this he could lock the vessel in place, and run the min chainsaw along the lines he had marked out, cross cutting the coves. To give the outside texture.

At this point I was wondering how you get back to a nice smooth finish, having a pretty rough cut with the arbortech. And the answer was to burn it!

Apparently it is a well known technique for treating wood, to scorch the outer layers black. This forms a hard outer surface which protects the body of the wood.

At this point another tool I don’t have, a blow torch. Mark mentioned that you need a gas that burns as hot as you can. This allow you to scorch the outer layer quickly without causing heat checking in the wood. There are various blow torch types available, and he used mapgas (at least I think that’s what he called it) it came in a yellow cylinder and he said you can get it in places like B&Q. This burns hotter than butane or propane, and whilst it is more expensive, you actually use less because it has effect quicker.

I didn’t see this bit in action, because he went outside, away from smoke detectors. He did give some sensible safety tips for if you’re doing this sort of thing. Get fireproof board to do it on. A welders glove to protect your hands, clear up any wood shavings that might catch. And do NOT use dust extractor either during or after. As there is a risk of pulling an ember into your dust extractor where upon hilarity will not ensue.

The burning process was followed up with using a stiff brush attachment on the which he held the wood against, this brushed off loose material, and gave the wood a tough sheen. Which would be good enough as a finish if you wanted.

But his last step was to use a rasp file to cut back areas that he wanted colour to take (apparently it doesn’t stick to the ebonised smooth surface)

And so he brought into action another tool I don’t have. An Airbrush attached to a compressor. HE had a duel action airbrush that let him control airflow by pressing down, and colour flow by pulling back on a little ‘joystick’ This looked pretty cool, and allowed him to layer on some colours into the groves of the surface.

Of course I cam away thinking…can I justify an arbortech? An air compressor? A funky hollowing tool? At the moment probably not. But maybe if I find other things that I could do with an air compressor, I might eventually get one. Or if I really want to get into hollow forms, a a nice hollowing tool may become a must.

Despite all the tools on show that I don’t have. I found it an interesting demonstration, and it’s always nice to see something quite different and unusual being made, to be inspired by different techniques and possibilities.

HWA June 1st – Fancy Turning with David Springett

Last Monday I went to this month’s wood turning group. For the first time in ages I didn’t have anything to show for my own activities. In my defense it was only 2 weeks since the May meeting which had to be moved due to the bank holidays.
And in that two weeks I got my eyes lasered, so I was not allowed in my workshop.

But there was still plenty to learn, and I got a lot out of the evening. This months demonstration was by professional turner David Springett. He is author of a bunch of books about wood turning. And he also brought a long a lot of examples of his work.

What is great about David’s work is that it all looks insanely complicated. And it is far from standard fare of bowls and vases. He claimed that most of what he makes is actually fairly easy, but is make to *look* complicated. Well he succeeded there because most of the stuff on display was daunting to contemplate.

It was truely inspiring to see a whole world of new opportunities in turning. If you ever thought you were running out of ideas for what you can turn then check out his work. He confessed that he has more ideas than time to attempt them.

Another great thing about his work is that there is a lot of logic, maths and science behind it. The scientist in me appreciates the logical progression he took us through with streptohedrons. These are shapes that he turns to have a cross section which is a regular geometric shape with rotation symmetry. In it’s simplest form a cone turned to have a cross section of an equilateral triangle. Once turned the shape is split in half and one side is rotated in relation to the other and stuck back together. This makes some fascinating shapes, and in theory, the turning involves is relatively simply ‘joint the dots’ If you do the maths correctly you just mark out your shape, turn to the right diameter, then turn straight lines between points. And your done. Of course I suspect this is easier to say than to do. But I can’t wait to have a go. The simple progression is simply that if you can figure out how to turn a shape that will have a cross section with rotational symmetry then you will get another interesting shape. Cones have triangle cross sections. Making something with a pentagon cross section, or even a hexagon cross section isn’t that hard.
He went on to show items with ’star’ cross sections, 3 pointed, 5 pointed, 6 pointed etc. Harder to turn, but these create spirals when one half is twisted. Suddenly relatively simple shapes are really producing complex looking objects. Really cool stuff.

Another incredible thing he showed us was a wooden arrow through a hollow glass apple. He had another example through a wine bottle. Why so incredible? Well the arrow is a single solid piece of wood. With flights at one side, and an arrow head at the other. Each too large to fit through the holes the arrow passes through. If it had not been explained to us, I would of convinced myself that somewhere there was a break and glue that I just couldn’t see.

But the truth is more incredible, and again inspiring as to what can be done with the application of science. I am no less impressed for knowing how it is done. This item only works with certain kinds of wood. You need wood that has thick summer growth and thin winter growth, which amounts to widely spaced rings. You also have to allow the arrow such that the arrow head has parallel nearly straight lines of grain running through it. Such that head on looking down the shaft the lines right horizontal.
That’s a pretty specific setup, but I was still not ready for the next bit…
You take the arrow head and boil it for 15 minutes. *Then* you put the arrow head in a vice and slowly but firmly squeeze it until it is flat with the shaft of the arrow. And leave it for 3 days…

Who figured this out?!

After 3 days, remove the arrow from the clamp, and pass it through the holes of your glass form.
And now the amazing part…you stick the arrow head back in hot water and magically it expands back to shape.

I kid you not. I saw it, with my own eyes. Yes the wood looks a little different after this process, but over time it dries again and I would never have guessed that this would work.

This really blew me away, again opening a whole world of possibilities that simply would never have occurred to me.

This is why I go to a woodturning club. To have my eyes opened to amazing ideas that I would stand no chance of coming up with on my own.
This one meeting was easily worth my 20 quid subscription fee (which covers me for a year) Add to that I am apparently the luckiest person ever and appear to win something in the raffle every month.
I promise I only buy into the raffle to support the club. I always buy 5 lines. I am more than happy to ‘pay’ 5 pounds per meeting.
However I can’t remember the last meeting where I did not win something at least equal to my 5 pound cost. This month I won a bead forming tool. Last month it was a block of sycamore. At the rate I’m going I feel slightly bad that I’m practically making a profit from going :-)

In the background I’ve been attempting to help the club with it’s website. Or rather I’ve been pushing them towards using a wordpress blog to run it instead of the existing hosting. The existing site is a bit of a pain to manage, and I think life will be easier with a wordpress based on. To that end I’ve created http://hantswoodturners.wordpress.com and I’ve started putting content on there, including a bunch of pictures I took this month of David Springett’s talk this month.

We’re not quite switched yet, though I think we are going that way. I hope that in future I will be able to give a little back to my club through helping out with content for the site, and maybe even attracting some new members. If your a woodturner in hampshire, you should deffinately be in a club. If you’re even slightly interested in woodwork but have never tried turning, you should come along and see what all the fuss is about.

Most improved novice

At this months HWA meeting we had the AGM. And I got a bit of a surprise.

It was the AGM containing all the normal business as usual things you have to cover at an AGM. Such as approving the financial records of the previous year, voting on proposed amendments to things like subscription costs.
After this though they had a series of presentations to do. To thank those that had spent the last year supporting the club through various activities. But the first award was for ‘most improved novice’ and it was given to me!!

It’s amazing just how good I feel about being given this cup. I’ve been going to the club for a little under a year now. Which means I’ve been wood turning seriously for about a year also. It’s nice to find I’m not the only one who thinks I’ve improved.

Co-incidentally, or perhaps not. This was the first month I had been convinced to put my turnings on the main gallery table, rather than just hiding them away in the corner for some advice and critque.

The award itself:

It is perhaps a little odd that a novice award for woodturning is a metal cup. Maybe someday it should be replaced by something appropriate in wood. However that does not diminish the fact that it is a cup with my name on it! The first I’ve ever had.

I really like the sentiment behind this award. It says nothing about anyones work being better than anyone elses. The only thing that matters is how you compare to yourself 1 year ago. It also does not mean you’re no longer a novice. I, like most of the people at the club, will have a hard time ever believing myself anything but a novice.

As for placing my items on the offical gallery table. It was interesting to see a wider group of people observing and commenting on them. Most people seemed to like my trapped ebony heart. And one of the main questions was ‘what inspired you?’ It’s so important a question that it is on the form you write to put next to your pieces. And whilst my tear drop on wood piece was most clearly inspired by a piece in woodturning magazine. My trapped ebony heart is something that simply arose from an idea to try and have a turning within another.
Also whilst to me the join in the outer shell is clear as day, those that commented felt that the grain match was very good and at first were not sure how I had achieved the final result.

Of course as ever, there were FAR better peices on the gallery. And the most impressive was a wooden flower. A wooden pot with several stems coming out at angles. Each with dozens of perfect wooden leaves. Ending in flower petals, bells and stamen. Even including a little bee in one of the flowers. A truely amazing piece of craftsmanship which apparently took 3 months to achieve (I can believe it).
This picture doesn’t do it justice:

Finally, I decided it was time I step up to provide some support to the club, and it seems the best way to do that is to help with the website. I am awaiting details of how to access what’s there at the moment. And then I will look at options. I think that it might be good to do a complete overhaul, to make it easier for the club to post content. Since most are not web designers, I think the current model is not that good for them. I’m seriously considering a wordpress setup, to make it easier for anyone to add articles and pictures to the site. However I shall need to get some opinions first.

Watch this space.

HWA January project – Wine bottle coaster

Whilst it may seem a little late, due to the snow the February wood turning meeting got canceled and I got more time to complete the challenge set by Bill to make a wine bottle coaster.
I wasn’t being lazy, I used the extra time to work on my side table project.

In theory a wine bottle coaster is a little larger than a typical coaster and with a raised side, such that it is a dish with a flat bottom. Which in itself is a challenge because a bowl gets to have a sweeping curve and no tight corners, but if you need a flat bottom and sides you have to worry about getting a good finish into the corners.

However, when Bill set me the challenge someone else (and if you ever read this I’m sorry I don’t remember your name) suggested that for a real challenge I should make it with a raise rail held up by individual spindles.

Never one to shy away from a real challenge I was taken by the idea and began to plan. Very quickly I formed the idea that I would make the base and the rail in a light wood, and make all the spindles out of a contrasting dark wood.

I found the actual doing of this project very challenging (which was the idea) but I also appreciate now that I should probably have thought out the process a little more before I began. But sometimes it’s difficult to think it through until you’ve started some things and got an idea for sizes and scales etc.
I started by shaping the base out of a piece of ash. This was simply a case of smoothing off the surface and rounding the edges over at about the right diameter. I then used the indexing ring on my chuck to help me mark 8 evenly spaced points around the rim for where I would drill to insert the spindles.

Mistake No.1 I stupidly did not mark a ring at the distance from the edge I would drill. I simply marked by eye rougly the same inset… It would of been so easy to just spin it with a pencil against the right point to get a consistent point of reference.

Mistake No.2 well not so much a mistake as a limitation of my setup. Whilst my chuck has an indexing ring, I have no fixed point to use to locate in it to fix a position. So whilst I was using the indexing ring, I was aligning it by eye and that’s just not accurate enough. At least not for the way I was doing this…more on that later.

Having gotten this far I then figured I should try making a spindle to get an idea of what size would work, what shape etc. Again I should probably be able to design up front and just make the design. But I find it easier to form my ideas whilst I try things for real.

Once I’d made a couple of spindles and felt I could repeat the size and shape I drilled holes in the base at my marked points to accept the spindle ends. Then re-mounted it on the lathe for final sanding and finishing of the front. Later I used a narrow parting tool to part thee base section off. Leaving enough left to make the ring section from the same block.

Next I turned more spindles. I wound up doing them 3 at a time along a length of a dark wood. I have no idea what it is, it was given to me by Harry or Bill.

Once I had completed the spindles I checked how they fit in :

Then I set to work making the ring. To do this I figured out the internal diameter enough to be just a little wider than a wine bottle. Then I decided how wide I wanted the top rim. Which was mostly a factor of looking right with the spindles. I used a parting tool to form the ring by reducing the wide of the rest of the block. And then using the parting tool to cut in a little from the end to form the ring shape.
I decided that the outside would be the bottom of the ring so that I could mark it up to drill the holes for the spindles.
This is where Mistake No.1 comes back to bite me, I checked the diameter for the holes I’d already made in the base, in order to match up the ones in the ring. But of course they were all slight different! I did my best to get a good match anyhow. But when I took it off the lath to try and line it all up it became clear that it wasn’t going to work, the combination of my two mistakes meant that the spindles wouldn’t sit straight and aligned. So I decided to use a parting tool to create a recessed track the same width as the drilled holes. So that the tops of the spindles could sit anywhere in the track. This sort of got around the problem but was a generally unsatisfactory compromise.

Once I parted off the ring completely I wanted to be able to re mount it the other way up, and also re mount the base the other way up so that I could finish the underside better. Which led me into making a jig for the purpose. I may write a blog about that another time. For the moment I’ll just say that it worked well enough, but leaves a lot to be desired. Again the theme of accuracy and how the lack of it is a problem there.

I had a tough time getting a good finish on the ring. Partly because it’s a difficult thing to re mount and work on, and partly because I slipped up and gouged what had been a good surface and had to re-finish it under less than ideal holding conditions.

Assembling the whole piece was a fiddly process. In which I managed to get glue on the finish, and over used my gorilla glue which I’m still not used to. This meant that once all was said and done I had glue to clean off that had expanded way too much. And the finish is compromised by patches that I got glue on.

All of which makes it sound like a disaster. But in fact the finished piece is ok. Sure it’s not perfect, but there are things I’m happy with. The overall design, the contrasting colour of the spindles to the base and rail. And the face I did a reasonable job of making 8 matching spindles, fairly quickly.

And I’ve already had a test drive with it :-)

I’ve got lots of thoughts on how I would make a better job in the future so it was at least a good learning experience.

HWA January meeting – Adrian Smith off-centre turning

A new year and already we’ve had the first good woodturning demonstration. This month Adrian Smith gave the demo
on off-centre turning.
There are a few signs which indicate someone takes woodturning seriously, one such sign was present on Adrian Smith… his own work smock with his name stitched on breast.

He started off by giving a top tip on making and expansion chuck for holding rings or any piece with a whole all the way through. Of course his examples were all off centre. Simply turn down a cylinder to the hole size, the cut down the middle on a bandsaw (not all the way). Then you can slide your piece onto the spiggot, and when you bring up the tailstock for support, the point will push apart the two sides thus providing an expansion and more grip.
This should be enough grip to even turn off centre.

Another idea he showed was a metal plate with single piece at right angles welded to the back. That can be gripped between two bits of a 4 jaw chuck. Hot glue gun your wood onto the faceplate. Then you can slide and adjust the panel in the chuck to adjust the off-centre amount.

Then he moved onto the first demo… making a paper knife, notable because one of the first demos I saw at the club was a paper knife. Adrian said he saw that demo and thought ‘I wouldn’t do it like that
Cut tenon on end that can be gripped in chuck between two jaws of the 4 jaw chuck. The other end can be supported by tailstock. You can line up tenon with edges of jaw to get centre. Then you can slide the tenon to change the centre. This is way simpler than the technique shown before. The main thing is that the previous technique scaled to production turning 4 at once. But this way is much easier for a single piece.

Pre push tail stock into each of the end centres before you cut away removing the support otherwise the pressure will just bend the wood and risk breaking away.

Divide the wood into squares running down its length to help guide the consistent of centering both ways.

Turn off centre one way moving the tenon to a mark and tail stock across the same amount. Then shift to the other side. To achieve the blade. Obviously turn down closer to middle as you go down the ‘blade’ length.
Another tip for demoing…When you have catch don’t stop to see it…turn it away then stop..

Once the blad is turned both sides shift back to centre to turn the handle.
Could be sanded on the lathe but just finished by hand often

Next project..

Making a fancy candlestick with off-centre turned discs down the stem.
Big ish cylinder/cone tapering to tailstock. With long spiggot on end so that it’s still in jaws when off’ centre Taking away material as much as poss to reduce weight whilst off-centre

Make a mark on wood and tape on chuck to allow setting back to this point. E.g. since it can get rotated when you switch centres, it helps to keep alignment.

Time for another tip.. .candle wax on the tool rest to aid even movement of the tool which helps for an even cut.

Draw a straight line across centre line on tail end.
Whilst spinning draw circles on end at intervals out. The point where the circle intersects with the straight line is even off-centre to each side. The various circles provide different amount of off centre.
Long’n’strong bowl gouge for cutting. Short grind on it. Wouldn’t use a spindle gouge on it.
Marked heavy lines down the length to show the different points to cut.
Set to first off centre point then straight V cut into the area turn until you turning all the way round but not so far that it drops off :-)
Once done, move to another centre. If you follow a spiral path of centres you’ll get a spiral of off centres.
If you jump back and forth you’ll get a more haphazard arrangement.
You can turn such that you have 4 sections. 1,3 the same centre and 2,4 the same. Don’t need to sand finish the first until you’ve done the second at the same centre.
Once you’ve done a couple don’t tighten the tail stock too far..else you’ll snap off the end…since there is now not wood all the way between tailstock and head stock.
Another tip.. Sliding chisel back off a surface to feel where it starts to come back on. Can be easier than spotting by eye where the edge is.
Re-centre to do base and top dome. Shape the top size appropriate to candle type. Obviously a tea light needs more space. Better to face off the top before drilling. The drill bit needs to touch evenly to avoid stresses on the weakened frame.
Put brass or some candle fitment on top.

Demo 3 Turning a cube to an interesting bowl.

Close 4 jaw chuck up leaving small hole in middle, put corner of cube in hole. Put opposite corner in appropriate live centre..hollow centre for auger.
Cut spiggot on one end..will be the base.
If you catch too hard it will just stop as the friction is reasonably low.
Then turn around onto spiggot… you need to cut the spiggot relatively far in to get reasonable diameter to hold.
Now the opposite point is in live centre
round over the base down to chuck leaving square top.
Then remove tail so you can hollow out
don’t do the stem too thin. The grain is not running lenthwise so it will be liabe to snap.
Obviously as you hollow you’re creating three ‘wings’ the tips of which where the edges of the cube and the dips are the centre of the sides of cube.

Next tip.. When hollowing, don’t bother turning all the way to centre…leave small stub and cut under occasionally to let it drop away.
Superglue the edges to give rigidity to help get thin without break out.
Sand flat surfaces with sandpaper on block to keep them flat.
Used a ring tool to finish the hollowing

All in all another great and informative evening. Learned lots and picked up some good tips and techniques. My bowl gouge usage had been all wrong, just watching it done right helps a lot.
Harry was ill and unable to make it so I couldn’t get his opinion on my turning efforts, but Bill was on hand to set me a challenge for next month…a wine bottle coaster.

Since the last meeting I had a go at a letter opener. I made mine too short, but I was pleased with how the technique worked and I think next time I can get the proportions right.

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